Female Pelvis: designed for giving birth

Sarah Langford at Ilythia Inspired has a blog post about the WizIQ class on the Female Pelvis, too. http://www.ilithyiainspired.com/2010/12/notes-from-pelvis-class.html

About gloria

I live and work in Vancouver BC Canada. I've been in the childbirth business for 30 years. I teach midwifery and doula courses both online and in person.
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13 Responses to Female Pelvis: designed for giving birth

  1. Amy says:

    thanks gloria. I think I myself have one of the “pony” pelvises. when people talk about too small pelvises I like to tell them about my friend who gave birth last year to an 11 lb 2 oz son through her pelvis that used to fit in size 0 jeans before she had babies. not only that but she gave birth lying on her back! imagine what she could do if she was free.

  2. Anita says:

    “you could fit a pony through there” ! I love you. I love your language. xox Anita

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  4. cecil says:

    Thanks! your wisdom is always an inspiration

  5. Joanna says:

    I have a question about this…I have a friend who just labored for 55 hours which ended in a c-section. She labored for a day naturally (took hypnobirthing, seemed totally prepared for natural birth) then a day with pitocin and an epidural, then pushed for several hours but baby was supposedly getting stuck behind her pubic bone (or pubic joint as you clarified). If pelvises are designed for giving birth and there isn’t really such a thing as too-small pelvis, what causes that to happen? I know you might not be able to answer the question since you don’t know the specific situation…but in your experience, have you seen this happen and why? Thanks!

    • jaimie says:

      I would say that the optimal opportunity for pelvic opening was shut down as son as pitocin was administered. I am sure the pit was given in a situation that included less movement. Also, a body given pit is being forced into a situation where the body is pushed past being physiologically ready to giv birth. Hence, not enough time for your client’s ideal window to open pelvis on its own. Remember, everyone’s time is different. 12-15 hours is really a medical termed norm, where actually women can be in early labor in small increments for days even a wekk or more before birth. Just a thought to consider, based on the info provided.

    • Marlene says:

      Getting stuck on the pelvic bone, or more appropriately, pelvic joint, is a positioning problem rather than a size problem. The pitocin causes unnatural contraction which can push the baby down before it’s ready and properly positioned. Also, babies can get unstuck by maneuvering the mother, which can be difficult or impossible with an epidural. I’m not judging her for having an epidural or letting them give her pitocin, I’ve never been in labor for 24 hours and I know every labor is different. I’m just saying these things can cause or exasperate the problem.
      OB’s are surgeons with busy practices. They have to be knowledgeable on a huge range of conditions and diseases. Most don’t spend a lot of time with women in labor. They come in and check on them every now and then, then walk in for the big event. Most of their patients have epidurals, and most hospitals give pitocin to the majority of moms in labor (in the US). They do not have time to go to conferences every year on natural child birth. They don’t learn the things midwives learn about how to get a baby unstuck, or how to safely deliver vaginally a breech baby. Experienced midwives, especially ones who deliver outside the hospital setting, have much more experience with this and can often deliver (safely), babies that would automatically be c-section babies with most OB’s.
      I hope this helps.

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  7. Sandy Riley says:

    Hi, as a HypnoBirthing Practitioner, and Birth Doula, I would say that this lady had some unresolved fear which created Fear Tension Pain and a Failure To Progress (FTP). This then lead into The Cascade of Interventions. It is so important for a woman to work thru her fears during pregnancy and to clear herself of these, so that her labour can unfold naturally.

    • gloria says:

      I don’t know what happened in this case. My own experience has been that many women do things to get their birth going. This can range from a 4 hour brisk hike, to acupuncture, to eating spicy food, etc etc etc. When the body isn’t ready to give birth, all these things do is just drag out a pretend birth process.

      Another big pitfall, wasting the early period of the birth process by staying awake, chatting, texting, and socializing. In modern times, we don’t seem to have the older, wiser women to tell the younger women to “chill out” and ignore the early phase. When the woman stays up all night in early birthing, she basically works a graveyard shift. Then, her circadian rhythms are thrown off. No other mammal does this. Electric lights are no friend to a birthing woman. So, I don’t think it’s the pelvis when a baby can’t be born, I look to the powers i.e. the strength of the uterus. There are things that the woman can do to get the birth off to a good start beginning with waiting till the baby is really ready.

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  9. Amy says:

    This limerick is dedicated to you, gloria :)

    Once born was a five kilo daughter
    To a slender hipped mother who caught her.
    When her friends would shriek, “HOW?!”
    She’d smile, “listen here now,
    It’s true. I ain’t no lie-er, I’m a squatter.”

  10. Gina says:

    This blog post really spkaes to me.Our 4th child was a peaceful drug and intervention free hospital birth until it was time for the placenta to be birthed. I had requested a natural 3rd stage, however the hospital had not heard nor had any idea of what or why it was requested and cut the cord at birth. From there they did the usual things, jab of sintocin, cord traction, timing the birth of the placenta, and tore my placenta. I then had the male midwife pummeling my tummy claiming he needed to get the placenta and any clots out asap (I mention that he was male as he was telling me that it can’t possibly hurt more than labour and telling me to hush and stop being hysterical, also he was very rough and hard with the massage!!! VERY hard!!!!) . It was like I was being cut open with no anaesthetic, like I was being stabbed every time he touched me and dug deeper. To read that others had a similar experience and saying the massage etc that they experienced was worse than the birth makes me feel kinda acknowledged. I know that I screamed and shouted no. no over and over but he kept doing the massage , telling me to be quiet and continued this for over an hour after the birth claiming it had to be done.I always wondered if I was being soft or sensitive to be feeling the pain and separation from my baby with this (he was with my husband as I was in so much pain and screaming I couldn’t hold him). Now I can close the chapter to this birth in a way knowing that what happened was NOT normal or right and it was painful. I wasn’t being soft or oversensitive.. I was being a normal mum who was for all intents and purposes being abused/assaulted and separated from my baby post birth due to faulty western medicine concepts. Thank you!!!

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